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I love Rossi's Character
Feb 13 2008, 1:25 PM EST
The following is what I found out about his personality from the episode About Face. Warning contains spoilers.He is challenged by shooting small moving targets. He loves his dog. He is discreetly wealthy and doesn't flaunt it. He knows what he likes and is not dictated to by others. He’s an individual. He’s not married. He doesn’t have a glory wall. He’s self-confident and his own man. He doesn’t like Strauss. Doesn’t care if Strauss knows he doesn’t like her. He probably trained Ryan, Gideon and Hotchner. Hotchner is a close, best friend? He is amused by Reids’ antics with the Halloween costume but is taken aback by Reids’ eagerness to talk to him. He is respectful of each of them and he does address Reid as Dr. He likes women not men. He admires J.J. and Prentiss although, I believe him to be too professional to ever act on the sexual interest. He is observant, gives the briefing his undivided attention and has intense concentration. He is the master of understatement, a man of few words. His comment upon meeting Garcia, “She’s different,” is short, insightful and to the point. Walking the dump sight with Reid, he visualizes/role plays the victim and the unsub, empathizing with them. He remembers the victims’ names. Usespsycholinguistics to know that the unsub is at work and make the unsub create a scene. He seems to have a sixth sense about who to go after and who is hiding something, example: unsub in the lobby. He regrets having to kill Max Pool. He discerns that Hotch has separated from Hailey. Rossi is honest about his reasons for coming back, but not the motivation. By the end, he knows that he will have to adjust and learn to trust and to share, an awesome character growth opportunity and effects on team dynamics. Rossi seems hard but it’s because everyone around him wants to use him in some manner. I think he may have a hard exterior and a marshmallow heart. 23 out of 28 found this valuable. Do you?
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Bessie_Mae |
1. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 13 2008, 3:10 PM EST
How are people using him?
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#1hotchfan |
2. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 13 2008, 3:38 PM EST
Some of that sums up Hotch and other characters as well. They all remember the victim's names.I'm not 100% certain about the honesty part as he hasn't told them what his unfinished business is. That could jeaporize the team down the road. 3 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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3. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 13 2008, 3:58 PM EST
I don't love Rossi and I don't like JM!!
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sue1313 |
4. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 13 2008, 5:42 PM EST
#1bookworm, was Ryan the older guy on one show that helped trained Gideon? I have always thought of Rossi and Gideon as being there at the same time and Hotch coming in later because Hotch often deferred to Gideon even though Hotch was head of the team. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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5. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 13 2008, 8:10 PM EST
I didn't like his attitude towards Morgan in the episode Lucky. And I hope he improves the all "working with the team " attitude.
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1Bookworm |
6. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 14 2008, 2:04 PM EST
BessieMae Rossi exhibits the signs of someone used to covering oneself with paper, examples, writing in notebook, keeping thoughts to himself, uncomfortable when pressed to contribute his thoughts. He doesn’t trust easily. I think the people like Strauss and possibly Ryan have used him to further their ambitions. Gideon and Hotchner probably witnessed the effort it took for Rossi to play the politics to keep the BAU department viable. Rossi may have had sweet young things throwing themselves at him after he left the BAU and made himself wealthy. Imagine being chased for your money rather than love and always know why they wanted to be around you.#1HotchFan It does sum up the characters. That’s the reason Rossi started to connect with them. These people are all chasing the bad guys for the greater good rather than their own egos. Rossi is as honest as he can be at this point. He has trust issues and all these people are unknowns. He doesn’t know where their allegiances lie and even Hotch could have changed in the last three years. Sue1616 That is correct about Ryan but I think Rossi may have started the BAU. That’s the reason Strauss said he was in a subordinate position to Hotchner. They obviously have a close friendship so I believe that Rossi had to have know and worked with Hotchner prior to this. Does anyone know how long Hotchner has been with the FBI and with the BAU? If Rossi has been retired for 10 years, Hotchner may have been one of the last agents he trained before retirement. GarciaFan I have only seen bits and pieces of Identity and Lucky so I can’t comment on the attitude. I would assume that Rossi was still trying to find his depth and his value to this team of unique individuals. 2 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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7. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 14 2008, 2:53 PM EST
I think the show that Ryan was on he talked about playing a trick on Gideon who was starting with the BAU so I think Rossi was there either before or at the same time as Ryan. I think Hotch must have started later. On one of the post (I don't remember which thread) somebody pointed out that the timeline of Hotch didn't following with his age. But Hotch worked with Rossi and seemed to be good friends.I do wish that Rossi would be nicer to Reid and not make a face when Hotch toldl him that he will be working with Reid. It shows that he has no respect for Reid. This is the main reason I don't care much for him. I felt sorry for him about the kids not returning his yearly call about the death of their parents. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Bessie_Mae |
8. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 14 2008, 3:17 PM EST
I haven't seen any evidence that anyone used him to further their ambitions. . He's not exactly the type to be shy about voicing himself, so when he said that he was back in a time when profilers went out alone and he's not used to group thinking, I took it at face value. He didn't have a problem sharing because he has trust issues. He just felt that it wasn't an effective way to work. I haven't seen anything that would suggest that he's questioning the allegiances of anyone. Allegiances to who?As far as the time line, I don't think the show really worked that out. I think Gideon and Rossi both have the same basic time line. Both originally were over Hotch at one point -well, they never said it on the show, but some articles about Rossi before he came on the show mentioned that he used to be Hotch's boss. But, I don't know if it counts if it wasn't actually said on screen. I think there might be a little fudging of details and some alternate universe thing going on. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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sue1313 |
9. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 14 2008, 4:34 PM EST
Sometimes I don't think that the writers realize that the viewers love this show and the team so much that we look at every point in the show. That we look at every thing they say and read meaning into it and that we look at the events in the lives of the team and notice the timelines. I love the details and talking about them and wondering about each look and word that is said.
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Bessie_Mae |
10. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 14 2008, 7:06 PM EST
I don't think any show keeps as detailed a look at continuity as the online fans. Some shows are better than others at the broad ideas - don't figure the show will suddenly forget that Reid is from Las Vegas or that Prentiss' mom is an ambassador- but a lot of things the fans really have more time to rewatch episodes, and the writers are thinking ahead.For Rossi, I think they wanted a basic stock type to fit the older more experienced profiler. Basically the spot Gideon filled, so they made a new character, but the time line of his back story is the same (or not, since it hasn't been specified) 1 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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sue1313 |
11. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 14 2008, 8:12 PM EST
I think Bessie Mae is right. We do have more time and more minds watching the details of the show. The writers just need to come here and read so they can keep up with timelines and such.I think too that as she said, they wanted a older more experienced profiler like Gideon. I think they also made Rossi just the opposite of Gideon in so many ways so that people would not see him as a Gideon replacement but to make people take a second look at him and maybe not even like him at first. it worked for a lot of us. I guess Rossi is just trying to find his place on the team. It just seems like every time I try to give him a chance he does something disrespectful to Reid and that just makes me so mad. I think Rossi likes everybody else on the team but Reid. it makes me sad. 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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1Bookworm |
12. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 15 2008, 3:15 PM EST
BessieMae I think Rossi is taking a wait and see attitude on the team members, summing up where they go to for help, what they gossip about, who they trust, who they report to, etc. All offices have clicks and allegiances. This is made worst by lack of funds and people who do not understand what you do. A lot of the field offices would look at the BAU as ivy tower; agents who never get their hands dirty. I think Rossi has been around long enough to be in situations where the agent-in-charge has used him or people he has worked with to further their own ambitions, either through non-support with higher ups or funding issues or taking the credit for BAU work or blaming failures on the BAU or on good agents that didn’t deserve it. He doesn’t want to be caught in that type of situation again. We know that there is history and bad blood between Rossi and Strauss.Rossi realizes at the end of About Face that the team is not there to win brown points with the bosses but to catch bad guys. I think that it is a presidential citation that Rossi keeps in his dressing area and it’s for starting the BAU. And, you’re right about the timeline. Rossi is stated to be 52. Retired 10 years, 20 years in FBI? That made him 22 when he graduated from the FBI academy. He would have to have a law degree at 21 and at least some training in psychology. It’s possible but he would have had to graduate high school early, around 15 or so to make it work and he wouldn’t have any military experience. This is if he had 20 years in the FBI before retirement. Do you find this valuable? |
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13. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 15 2008, 3:15 PM EST
Sue1313 You’re right about the time to watch reruns and the analysis. Fun, isn’t it? I don’t see the disrespect for Reid. Rossi is used to giving undivided attention. I think Reid tends to distract him by giving him useless information. Reid can tell you why by quoting book and page, Rossi can tell you why by instinct. They approach a problem from opposite ends and get the same answer. Rossi also feels out of step. All the team is comfortable with computers, ipods, etc. Rossi uses paper. Hotchner is a blend of the two. Side note: Paper may help Rossi organize his thoughts.You realize that Reid and Rossi are the most stable characters. They have both endured trails by fire and have bent not broken. We don’t know what Rossi trail was and Reid just doesn’t realize how strong he actually is. In Limelight, Reid and Rossi have found their level with each other. They have become friends. What happened on that road trip to make Reid relax around Rossi and to make Rossi open up with Reid? Of course, it was Hotchner’s whole point in putting them together in a car for 4 hours. Hotchner is one very smart cookie. There are no distractions from Rossi and Reid actually talking to each other and not about a case. Yes, Rossi opened his mouth to say something but he closed it knowing that protest was useless. He just wanted some time to think. Rossi has had 10 years of peace and quite, time to think, prepare his lectures, write his books; even traveling would be fairly quite. He now thrust into a busy office, computers, fax machines, people talking, phones ringing, HVAC going on and off. All the white noise and he doesn’t get any quite time even in travel. He got there at Halloween, they have had very little down time since then and the team is constantly around him. He finally gets a chance to get out in the car for 4 hours of peace and quite. Who does he get as a buddy? Reid. Priceless! 0 out of 1 found this valuable. Do you? |
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14. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 15 2008, 3:20 PM EST
Seems like the team members are talking to Rossi more about their feelings rather then to Hotch which surprises me.
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15. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 15 2008, 5:07 PM EST
Are you basing your observations of Rossi by what's been shown in canon or by your observations of real life workplaces, since you mentioned them in general. Like is there something on screen, an episode a scene or something that made you sense he was summing the team up or trying to find out their allegiances? Or is it that in real life, you see all workplaces as having them, so you feel that someone in Rossi's position *would* be cautious like that? Have you seen some indication on screen that Rossi might think the agent in charge would use him to further their ambitions (by agent in charge, do you mean Strauss or Hotch) or is it again based on how you feel it would be with an agent like Rossi in real life? Not saying either way is wrong ("profiling" the character based on canon or on things that are more abstract) just wonders which one was being used here. 2 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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sue1313 |
16. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 15 2008, 5:44 PM EST
1Bookworm, I never thought of Reid and Rossi as being the most stable characters, but I can see that they really are. I kind of feel like Rossi’s trial is not being able to forgive himself for not finding the killer of the kid’s parents. He can’t let that one case go, has come back to solve it and I think it hurt him that the kids have lost faith in him by not returning his call at xmas.I may need to go back and watch Limelight but I didn’t see them becoming friends. Rossi did not want Reid along but had no choice about it and I think he didn’t want any help from Reid. He would have been fine if Hotch sent Morgan with him. I think Hotch knows Rossi is put off by Reid and wanted to force him to be with Reid and maybe get to know him for the sake of the team. Reid told Rossi that he had tapes they could listen to. (I think because he knows Rossi doesn’t like to talk to him). Every time Reid tries to engage him in a conversation about a certain subject Rossi just walks away. Such as in Lucky when he asked about Ruby Ridge. When they first met and he wanted to discuss something and Rossi walked away. Again in Lucky, when the guy made fun of Reid size and how he wore his guy, Rossi said nothing to make him feel better. Reid understands Rossi better then the others because at the table when Rossi said something, Reid often breaks it down for the others. I think Reid is Rossi’s best chance for solving his unfinished case if Rossi could just talk to Reid about it. When I say Rossi disrespect Reid it is because Rossi always acts like he can’t stand being around or hearing Reid talk. Please let me know what you think. I would love for Reid and Rossi to become friends. 1 out of 2 found this valuable. Do you? |
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Bessie_Mae |
17. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 15 2008, 6:26 PM EST
The way it played to me, Reid suggested the tapes because he thought it was a cool activity for a "Road trip!" His whole attitude was more excited than feeling the need to have noise because he thinks Rossi doesn't want to talk to him. Rossi probably doesn't, but I don't see Reid being all sensitive about it. Or about the militia guy telling him he was wearing his gun wrong.
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sue1313 |
18. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 15 2008, 8:02 PM EST
You could be right but Reid has been wanting to talk to Rossi since the day he came. So i don't understand why he would know think it was better to listen to tapes. When the guy told him about the gun and they he and Rossi walked off, Reid was standing there looking down at his gun. Seemed a bit sad to me, but I do then to want to protect Reid so it may just be me reading more into it then there was. I don't think Gideon would have just let it passed. he would have told the guy where to put his gun. 1 out of 3 found this valuable. Do you? |
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19. RE: I love Rossi's Character
Feb 15 2008, 8:29 PM EST
It's about time that somebody realizes just how special Rossi is. I was prepared to not like him when he replaced Gideon but I gave him a chance and found that I really like his character. He isn't Gideon but there is a lot of Gideon in him. I find him as intense and dedicated as Gideon was. He makes a great addition to the team. I do have to say that I am totally a Hotchner fan but can appreciate the others. This is the first time that I have posted anything. It's all very strange!!
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