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Reid_JJ
Aspergers?
Mar 26 2009, 9:09 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2009, 9:09 AM EDT
Do you think Dr Spencer Reid has, or is meant to show symptoms, of Asperger's Syndrome?
I know a few "Aspies" and Reid seems to show some of the characteristics, so i was just wondering.
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batgurl88
batgurl88
1. RE: Aspergers?
Mar 26 2009, 10:51 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2009, 10:51 AM EDT
There's a lot of debate about this topic. MGG said in an early interview that his character was meant to have Aperger's (like, beginning of season 1), an unsub in 1x05 'Broken Mirror' declared that Reid had "autistic leanings", and some fans have made the connection, but there are also a number of fans who protest this diagnosis. I think the first handful of season 1 episodes depict a character who could have a form of Asperger's Syndrome (I don't have any personal experience with it, but I have done some basic study into it through psychology courses), but the writers have moved away from that initial character so much that in retrospect he can just be read as initially awkward. 6  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    

Reid_JJ
2. RE: Aspergers?
Mar 26 2009, 11:38 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2009, 11:38 AM EDT
I think maybe, seeing as Reid is so bright (IQ 187) he may have learned how to be more socially adept. However, i preferred Reid's earlier more AS-like awkwardness! They really should bring that back. On the other hand, he could just be learning from doing, as some people with Asperger's do pick up more developed social skills as they grow up. Also, i think that he could possibly have just become more comfortable with the people on his team, and so also become more comfortable in situations they are in together. 3  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
Maddiefack
Maddiefack
3. RE: Aspergers?
Mar 26 2009, 11:59 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2009, 11:59 AM EDT
I never really saw this because I always linked his social awkwardness to the way he grew up (more than half of his life) without a father and his mother being mentally insane and the fact that he was 12 in high school...the way I saw it he never had any real training in the ways of proper social conduct...that's just me though *Shrug* 5  out of 7 found this valuable. Do you?    
CriminalMinds_Liz
CriminalMinds_Liz
4. RE: Aspergers?
Mar 26 2009, 12:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 26 2009, 12:20 PM EDT
I like Reid being more and more socially adept. I think it's like, developing the character as the show goes on, I mean, it would be kind of boring if he stayed the same the whole show.. Sure, Reid is supposed to be a bit of a person who has AS, but, I think the way he's developing is better. All the characters are developing in different ways, and Reid's way of developing is by being more comfortable socially, and I think that's a part of Reid's charm (developing I mean). 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Wolfeaddict
Wolfeaddict
5. RE: Aspergers?
Mar 27 2009, 2:18 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 27 2009, 2:18 AM EDT
"I like Reid being more and more socially adept. I think it's like, developing the character as the show goes on, I mean, it would be kind of boring if he stayed the same the whole show.. Sure, Reid is supposed to be a bit of a person who has AS, but, I think the way he's developing is better. All the characters are developing in different ways, and Reid's way of developing is by being more comfortable socially, and I think that's a part of Reid's charm (developing I mean)."
I agree, it's great to see him evolve.
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Reidfan09
Reidfan09
6. RE: Aspergers?
Mar 29 2009, 1:20 PM EDT | Post edited: Mar 29 2009, 1:20 PM EDT
it does seem as though he might, he wears his watch over top of his clothes it is comon for people with Aspergers to be overly sensitive to clothing tags or jewlery 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
CriminalMinds_Liz
CriminalMinds_Liz
7. RE: Aspergers?
Mar 30 2009, 8:52 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2009, 8:52 AM EDT
Yeah, but that's not the reason he wears it like that, it's because he's a "genius" :P they don't like to feel metal and stuff on their skin.. 0  out of 5 found this valuable. Do you?    
wensmcg
wensmcg
8. RE: Aspergers?
Mar 30 2009, 9:32 AM EDT | Post edited: Mar 30 2009, 9:32 AM EDT
neither does my husband and he's no genius! LOL

Anyone notice he's ditched the watch fro a pocket watch - very Spencer I think

NOT Aspergers - he wouldn't be able to learn social skill slike he has over the last seasons - more to do with lack of peer socialisation during his growing up + probably studying subjects that dont actually require him to talk to ayone

Wens xxx
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lis_spencer
lis_spencer
9. RE: Aspergers?
Apr 27 2009, 12:08 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 27 2009, 12:08 PM EDT
"I never really saw this because I always linked his social awkwardness to the way he grew up (more than half of his life) without a father and his mother being mentally insane and the fact that he was 12 in high school...the way I saw it he never had any real training in the ways of proper social conduct...that's just me though *Shrug*"
I agree with you, Reid is kind of shy and he never had an opurtunity to be with people of his age and now he has grown a lot, I think he just need confidence and trust to show his personality . Besides, I read that to be a profiler you had to be "a mental health professional" so I´m sure he hasn´t asperger.
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jFalcone17
jFalcone17
10. RE: Aspergers?
Apr 28 2009, 4:36 PM EDT | Post edited: Apr 28 2009, 4:36 PM EDT
Reid sort of touched on it himself when he talks about the chances of schizophrenia (?spelling?) being passed down from his mother. Plus he never had a chance to really be a kid, between highschool at 12 and taking care of his mother, which really can affect a childs social developement. Do you find this valuable?    

1983Sarah
11. RE: Aspergers?
Apr 29 2009, 8:15 AM EDT | Post edited: Apr 29 2009, 8:15 AM EDT
"Reid sort of touched on it himself when he talks about the chances of schizophrenia (?spelling?) being passed down from his mother. Plus he never had a chance to really be a kid, between highschool at 12 and taking care of his mother, which really can affect a childs social developement."
I agree. I think that Reid is somewhat aware of his awkwardness, even if it isn't Aspergers. I do think he's gotten less socially inept over the seasons, so I believe that it was more of a result from his intelligence, he skipped a lot of social interactions because he skipped grades and such. I think that played a role in his lack of social development, but due to his involvement with the BAU he now has improved his skills with people.
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veganfan
12. RE: Aspergers?
Jan 2 2010, 5:36 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 2 2010, 5:36 PM EST
"Yeah, but that's not the reason he wears it like that, it's because he's a "genius" :P they don't like to feel metal and stuff on their skin.."
Not sure about that. The first four episodes of season 1 show him in short sleeves wearing a watch.
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ichbetegenie
ichbetegenie
13. RE: Aspergers?
Jan 3 2010, 9:11 AM EST | Post edited: Jan 3 2010, 9:11 AM EST
I think that Reid was always just a little bit shy, as you guys said, because of his "isolation" (don't know a better word for it) from people his age all through school.... if you remember, he told Morgan something along the lines of "when you're the smartest kid in school, you're also the loneliest one". 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

Stickthekettleonluv!
14. RE: Aspergers?
Jan 8 2010, 12:57 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 8 2010, 12:57 PM EST
I score 34 on the Autism Spectrum Quotient but am not autistic - 80% of people scoring 32 or over are somewhere on the spectrum though. However, I have been assessed (unrelated) and confirmed as SpLD. Because I have a ridiculously good long term memory (and a high IQ - not trying to sound smug btw) and think of things scientifically or mathematically, as well as in images and find links & patterns between things based on stuff I've remembered, I think that influenced the score. I'm quite sociable when not snowed in although my friends say I'm useless at noticing if I'm being chatted up by a bloke. I complain it never happens although they assure me I'm too dense to notice!

The tactile defensiveness thing can occur in people with autism, as well as SpLD and "neurotypical" gifted types. I still have issues with labels in clothes and fizzy drinks, I hate the feel of both. I was a really picky eater as a kid based on food texture, not taste. Even now I like steak but hate anything with minced beef.

The watch thing is apparently relatively common in educationally gifted people (I read a study paper on it years ago). I laughed when I saw Reid wearing his watch over his clothes as I used to wear mine over my school shirt but under my school jumper as I realised it was a weird thing to do. I had to bite the bullet and wear it on my wrist skin once I got to secondary school, I still find it annoying so only wear it when out of the house and often take it off at work. I very rarely wear jewellery for the same reason.

Apparently hating wearing a coat whilst driving is included - which may explain why I drove to work on Monday with my coat next to me in temperatures of -10c! Then put it on to walk from the car park into the building???

Other than that you'd never guess I'm a total weirdo - haha!
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ILDRSR
ILDRSR
15. RE: Aspergers?
Jan 27 2010, 4:34 PM EST | Post edited: Jan 27 2010, 4:34 PM EST
I've wondered this too. his social-awkwardness if you will could come from.. well graduating high school at the age of 12, but he does show some asperger-like tendencies. I'm kind of doing the circle effect, watching like seasons 1-4 on A&E and season 5 when its new, eventually I'll be totally caught up, and I agree with batgurl88 they have definately pulled away from this part of his character though. Do you find this valuable?    

wibeke
16. RE: Aspergers?
Feb 1 2010, 3:54 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 1 2010, 3:54 PM EST
I have NLD which is basically the same thing as asperger's as far as i know, only it's found out by testing instead of observation and is less extreme in some aspects. Most psycologists don't like studying them differently.

Based on expiriences that I've had myself and two of my Asperger's friends I wouldn't have been at all surprised in seasons 1 and 2 if Reid had Asperger's. The idea must have been dropped by the writers though, as I've yet to see anyone with it really learn social skills that quickly. It's possible for someone with it to do so, but quite like he did.

Only wierd habit I really have is wearing short sleeves in the middle of winter in -15 degree weather. It's similar as too how reid wears his watch. I hate things touching my skin and will do anything possible to avoid it.

I'm amazed no one mentioned his monologues though. Once you get and Aspy talking they're not going to shut up until they've said what they've needed to say. Trust me, it's really hard and I don't know any normal people who have this habit. In that sense he still does fit the "profile".

So maybe the writer's dropped it or just made a mistake in giving him social skills. it doesn't matter that much, but i'll watch a bit more closely next episode.
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Stickthekettleonluv!
17. RE: Aspergers?
Feb 2 2010, 1:12 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 4 2010, 9:08 AM EST
Ha! I used to insist on wearing shorts and a sleeveless top when I was a kid, regardless of the weather. My Mum was convinced the neighbours would report her for child cruetly as I'd try to go out in the snow, etc wearing next to nothing!

When I got in from school the first thing I'd do was change out of my uniform into my "comfy stuff" - even now I get changed as soon as I get in from work as I prefer pyjamas!

I had a "Reid" moment in the canteen at work today. We were discussing a colleague who is downright evil (classic malignant narcissist) and someone mentioned psychopathy. I went off on a dialogue about statistically how common it is, gender distribution, stereotypes, etc. My (nice) colleagues sat there with their mouths hanging open, until I twigged and went "What? - I was then asked if I'd got a psychology degree! I've got an A level and remember Hare's research being fascinating, so I suppose I've retained something I was taught.

I also should point out I've been researching psychopaths for "a little project" so all the stats are freshly re-wedged in my brain...
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codename:mara
codename:mara
18. RE: Aspergers?
Feb 2 2010, 1:48 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2010, 1:48 PM EST
"ISo maybe the writer's dropped it or just made a mistake in giving him social skills. it doesn't matter that much, but i'll watch a bit more closely next episode."
Maybe the writers just used the bits about the disease that they thought were interesting and ignored the rest.
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SmilingxLove
19. RE: Aspergers?
Feb 2 2010, 2:20 PM EST | Post edited: Feb 2 2010, 2:20 PM EST
I think they were definitely aiming for Aspergers or something in the autistic spectrum, especially because the unsub in in "Broken Mirror" (?) specifically pointed out Reid's somewhat autistic behaviour. However, I think the writers then got themselves in a bit of bind because they kept making Reid have experiences that would naturally change his personality (i.e. kidnap, torture, drug abuse). It would've been hard for them to keep him as awkward as he was in episode 1 after everything that he's been through to date. It'll be interesting to see how his character continues to develop. Do you find this valuable?    
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