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#1hotchfan
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Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 19 2009, 7:44 PM EDT | Post edited: May 19 2009, 7:44 PM EDT
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reidbetweenlines
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1. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 4:22 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 4:22 PM EDT
maybe since they're in detroit they'll mention my city ;)
haha. doubt it though
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#1hotchfan
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2. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 10:58 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 10:58 PM EDT
Oh they SOOOOO did not do that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am hating they are doing this to him - he'd better be coming back!!!! I'll be ticked. I'm hoping he has a back-up or KNEW this was coming! Do you find this valuable?    
jFalcone17
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3. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:01 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:01 PM EDT
HOLY S*%#!!!!!! WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT!! What did he mean you should have made a deal? Why would they kill Hotch? I only missed a few episodes this season, why don't i get this???????????"????? GRRRR!!!!! 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
igc1967
igc1967
4. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:03 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:03 PM EDT
OMG..... He has to come back, what would be the point if he did'nt. He is the soul of the show.... 2  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
dheigel
dheigel
5. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:03 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:03 PM EDT
what just happened...that did not just happen...you should have made a deal...what did I miss? 0  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    
reidbetweenlines
reidbetweenlines
6. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:04 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:04 PM EDT
SO LOL THEY DID MENTION MY CITY (sarnia, ontario btw)

but hotch CANNOT die. i hate cliffhangers.
well....if hotch dies at least i'll still have my reid bby :(

i think that he'll be seriously wounded and will be forced to leave the team. any other guesses?
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batgurl88
batgurl88
7. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:06 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:06 PM EDT
The "you should have made a deal" part is in regards to the killer offering Hotch a deal in 'Omnivore': He'd stop killing if Hotch stopped hunting him. Hotch refused.

Gotta say, I didn't expect it to be Hotch again - I figured since last season finale was Hotch-in-peril, this one would be Morgan (especially since the Reaper took Morgan's badge - marking him as a target). Hmmm...
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zany_cupcake
8. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:11 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:11 PM EDT
I definitely was focused more on Morgan being the target after his whole thing. But seriously, omg. I mean, I would hope they wouldn't kill him, cause I would be uber sad. But I definitely look forward to seeing how they work that out. Cause it's not like the shot should miss, unless the shooter just sucks at life. Do you find this valuable?    
MissyE03
MissyE03
9. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:13 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:13 PM EDT
OMG!!! that was sooo good I loved it!

I can't believe he (C. Thomas Howell) went after Hotch . I thought that they would just show him going back to killing couples.

I am sooo excited for next season, I can't wait!!!!!
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pinkshoesrock
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10. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:13 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:13 PM EDT
I do not want Hotch to die. But a death in the team always occurs eventually in these shows.
I'd also rather he be injured to the point of no return.

We won't know if he's going to survive until the end of the first episode of the 5th season. The team will have to find the shooter, the guy from 'Omnivore.'

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casecracker
casecracker
11. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:17 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:17 PM EDT
"The "you should have made a deal" part is in regards to the killer offering Hotch a deal in 'Omnivore': He'd stop killing if Hotch stopped hunting him. Hotch refused.

Gotta say, I didn't expect it to be Hotch again - I figured since last season finale was Hotch-in-peril, this one would be Morgan (especially since the Reaper took Morgan's badge - marking him as a target). Hmmm..."
Yes, thank you , I couldn't remember who this guy was. I too thought it would be Morgan. And if he is shot, will there be a coma for awhile? I knew since they were showing Hotch in his home that there was someone else there. I was hoping it was a woman; but I had doubts. Man, they don't give Hotch a break. I wasn't a big fan of tonights show. There is something in the back of my brain that says I knew this plot from a book. It was very similar.
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DexterMorganFan
12. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:20 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:20 PM EDT
I don't watch the news that much but didn't this happened?

And I hope they don't end up killing Hotch because the show wouldn't be the same without him!
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JB19
JB19
13. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:24 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:24 PM EDT
There was a pig farmer in B.C. that killed prostitutes?
That might be what you're thinking.
It's what came to my mind when they first showed the pigs.
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batgurl88
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14. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:27 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:27 PM EDT
"I wasn't a big fan of tonights show. There is something in the back of my brain that says I knew this plot from a book. It was very similar. "
That might be if you heard about the original case here in Canada, over in British Columbia. A guy named Robert Pickton was murdering prostitutes/drug users and feeding them to his pigs. Possibly why it sounded so familiar.
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jareaufan
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15. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:32 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:32 PM EDT
Wow. The first thing that came to my mind was "SERIOUSLY?!"

That was probably one of the best, on-the-edge-of-your-seat cliffhangers I've seen in a good while. Last season it was that darn van, now it's "that darn blackout before we saw what happened."

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pinkshoesrock
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16. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:33 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:33 PM EDT
Criminal Minds in relation to real cases shouldn't be a huge surprise. All the cases in the show are based on real cases in one way or another. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    

penelopeandemilysexy
17. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:35 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:35 PM EDT
My guess was that it was Morgan who would be gone, because of in the episode "Omnivore," the Reaper had all of Morgan's information and not Hotch's. So, that put him as a target. Morgan was talking like he was going to leave the team. How did the Reaper get Hotch's address anyway though? Like I said, the Reaper had all of Morgan's info and not Hotch's! ??? And we cannot assume that Hotch will be killed off at this point. The shot could have missed or the shot could have hit, but might not have been fatal. He could just be seriously wounded. I agree with you. Hotch is the center of the team! But, I would still watch of course. Criminal Minds is the god of all crime dramas! Not the only good one out there of course, but it is the best!!! Don't kill anyone! Aaaah! My guess is that Rossi will take over if anything fatal has happened to him or if he is seriously wounded so much that he cannot be a part of the team anymore. 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

spywholovedme
18. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:36 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:36 PM EDT
The Boston Reaper came back!! He made a deal with the cop friend of Hotch's from years back...deal ended when the guy died.....gave Hotch the same chance. Uh oh..... 1  out of 1 found this valuable. Do you?    

azurebead
19. RE: Discuss the Season finale "To Hell...and Back" here
May 20 2009, 11:36 PM EDT | Post edited: May 20 2009, 11:36 PM EDT
"I do not want Hotch to die. But a death in the team always occurs eventually in these shows.
I'd also rather he be injured to the point of no return.

We won't know if he's going to survive until the end of the first episode of the 5th season. The team will have to find the shooter, the guy from 'Omnivore.'

"
It's going to be a long summer.... ::sigh::

I spotted C Thomas Howell on the opening credits and was waiting for him to make his appearance. But there?!?!!? Nonononono... Hotch, Reid, Rossi are my favorite characters - don't make me pick one!

Oh the fanfiction community is going to have a field day with this one.
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