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20. RE: Spencer Reid's Birthday
Mar 6 2012, 8:30 PM EST
Thanks!I was taken by surprise when they suddenly started claiming Reid was a technophobe or luddite.It didn't make sense-- especially since we saw him using computers in the past. I think it was something Matthew pushed that the writers gave in to. I was irritated when they had Reid tell a girl he didn't have e-mail when earlier that season he was checking his e-mail. I'm guessing he was just saying he only had work e-mail and not a personal e-mail account. The writers and cast are saying behind the scenes that Reid is a technophobe. :-( Again, thank you! I love when people compile information because it saves me some time. If there is anything I can help with, just let me know. I have an FAQ section on my page that I need to update: http://szejo.tumblr.com/cmfaq If you have the time, please let me know what you think. Do you find this valuable? |
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21. RE: Spencer Reid Birthday
Jun 30 2012, 6:21 PM EDT
He was born on October 9th 1980 because on October 12th they said his birthday was three days ago.
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suceress |
22. RE: Spencer Reid Birthday
Jul 1 2012, 12:36 PM EDT
"He was born on October 9th 1980 because on October 12th they said his birthday was three days ago."Actually they put him as being born in 1981 when they first had his birthday on the show. He was turning 23 but Matthew was already 24 because he's a year older than the character. Are you going by the airdate as Oct 12 or was that the date in the episode? Do you find this valuable? |
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IrishLefay |
23. RE: Spencer Reid Birthday
Jul 1 2012, 1:19 PM EDT
Air dates aren't reliable for dating anything in show, Hotch's birthday which is right around Day of the Dead, which is Nov. 1st aired in April. But if they stated it was october in the show, that's a different story.
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24. RE: Spencer Reid Birthday
Jul 2 2012, 10:22 AM EDT
"Air dates aren't reliable for dating anything in show, Hotch's birthday which is right around Day of the Dead, which is Nov. 1st aired in April. But if they stated it was october in the show, that's a different story."Yeah. That's why I wanted to know if she was going by the airdate because it wouldn't necessarily be accurate. Do you find this valuable? |
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IrishLefay |
25. RE: Spencer Reid Birthday
Jul 2 2012, 11:28 AM EDT
No, sorry, I was just meaning to back up what you said, not imply you hadn't said it. I want to say that they don't actually say the date in that episode, because I've seen it and I think watched it in direct response to this thread to be be sure I wasn't blahblahing when it was already known... but I honestly don't remember and the episode being talked about aired in January, I haven't had time to go back and watch it in the last couple days though.
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IrishLefay |
26. RE: Spencer Reid Birthday
Jul 2 2012, 2:03 PM EDT
"He was born on October 9th 1980 because on October 12th they said his birthday was three days ago."Okay, I just rewatched the one episode I wasn't 100% sure about (7x11 True Genius), and there is no date stated, nor visible on any thing, so it is without date. Previous episodes referencing Spencer's birthday also do not give a specific date at any point. Air dates are useless and not worth using for any sort of deductive reasoning. (an Episode that takes place in camera on the Day of the Dead in Mexico aired in April, more recently, Hotch goes on a date with Beth on Valentines, yet is seen wearing summer weight work out clothes a couple episodes previous... pretty sure winter is cold in Virginia ;) ). So, although for the reasons I state on a previous lacking on screen evidence. But, a fall birthday (using fall a bit loosely, August-December) does fit all cannon evidence and with a little inductive reasoning, can be narrowed to September-November. Do you find this valuable? |
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27. RE: Spencer Reid Birthday
Jul 3 2012, 10:41 AM EDT
"Okay, I just rewatched the one episode I wasn't 100% sure about (7x11 True Genius), and there is no date stated, nor visible on any thing, so it is without date. Previous episodes referencing Spencer's birthday also do not give a specific date at any point. Air dates are useless and not worth using for any sort of deductive reasoning. (an Episode that takes place in camera on the Day of the Dead in Mexico aired in April, more recently, Hotch goes on a date with Beth on Valentines, yet is seen wearing summer weight work out clothes a couple episodes previous... pretty sure winter is cold in Virginia ;) ). So, although for the reasons I state on a previous lacking on screen evidence. But, a fall birthday (using fall a bit loosely, August-December) does fit all cannon evidence and with a little inductive reasoning, can be narrowed to September-November."Yeah. That makes sense. I believe the only episodes that reference Reid's birthday are "In Plain Sight", "Masterpiece", and "True Genius". I think they actually got Reid's age wrong in "Memoriam" when they said that he was four years old in 1984 -- but then Reid also said he hadn't seen his father in 20 years and it had only been 17 so I think they were rounding up. I wonder if they said anything even approximate to a date in "Masterpiece" because Reid said he was 27 "as of last month". True Genius couldn't really be counted as dating him either since they had missed his birthday-- but they never even hinted at how long ago the birthday had been. Do you find this valuable? |
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IrishLefay |
28. RE: Spencer Reid Birthday
Jul 3 2012, 11:42 AM EDT
That is an excellent point that they don't say how much they'd missed it by in True Genius, so its moot either way. I had forgotten about Masterpiece, I will have to rewatch that now and see if I can find any hints, though I doubt it, that's the sort of stuff I typically remember :)I imagine he was just rounding up, though that's another character inconsistent moment, since on other occasions he'll give a period of time down to the minute, and that seems like an odd moment for him to try and be "more conversational". Though honestly, considering how little internal logic seems to matter to the writers (and to be fair, we're the only nerds who care lol) searching for cannon evidence is pointless. If we ever are told his birthday, it will be some writer throwing a dart at a calendar, putting no thought into something some of us have thought very hard about. Sometimes, cannon is dumb, unfortunately, and its best to work with the internal logic that has already been established. For example, as we've talked about, Spencer is sometimes shown as a technophobe who supposedly doesn't use email, but early in things (first season) he's shown having a solid understanding of computers (Morgan is too, for that matter). But everything we as fans know about Spencer's character says that its very likely he'd love the free exchange of information on the internet. I think in True Genius that is somewhat reconciled when he says that reading via computer "Slows him down". That, I'll believe to a certain degree. Its not that he doesn't know/use technology, its just he can manage to read faster in analog. But regardless, there's cannon evidence at expressing both view points, albeit the technophobe perspective seems to get more screen time, but that cannon evidence lacks internal consistency. As I think our dear Dr. Reid would suggest, trust in logic. :) Do you find this valuable? |
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29. RE: Spencer Reid Birthday
Jul 4 2012, 2:09 PM EDT
I always figured one of the reasons Reid said "20 years" instead of 17 in "Memoriam" was to stress that it had been a long time to him and it also reflected that he was thinking emotionally rather than logically at that time.I agree that they can always do some weird stuff when it comes to continuity on the show. My brain isn't working today so I'm not more eloquent. Speaking of logic: Reid probably has his philosophy degree now. One thing I've noticed about people with philosophy degrees is that they delight in confusing people with logic. I could see Reid run circles around someone by just confusing them with logic. I wish the writers were good enough to pull that off, but I doubt it. Do you find this valuable? |
